I am in the minority, who asked for a refund. For many of his attendees, it seems there are deep-seated issues with a lack of love, and the belief that they are not enough. For my friends, the seminar was overwhelmingly positive and deeply moving. For me, it felt superficial and cheesy. I don't plan on attending another Tony Robbins' event.
But I would, if his team made a few big changes:. Your email address will not be published. Leave this field empty. One I just completed, which led me to your article. For some reason, I alwaysss get uncomfortable watching his videos. I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same. Sure he has some valid points I sense ego and even a bit of arrogance.
Someone who may have had the right intentions at one point, but whose roots now seem to be polluted by ego. Not fillers. He appears to be a master businessman though whose true drive and purpose needs a checkup????? Again, my opinion. I find Gabor Mate wayy more insightful. Believe me, lol. But thank you for your article, validated what I too have felt. Tony Robbins is a fraud, flawed human being. His body already rejected "his" conceptualization of "the perfect food s ", and what's obvious is "his" need for attention and sense of belonging. He is a narcissist. Perhaps a sociopath.
In the end he helps no one but himself by feeding off of popularity and attention all the while prancing around like a rock star lead singer without the actual talent to be a rock star lead singer. He's a great salesman and marketing genius - selling delusions. I've never been to Tony Robbins event but have been close to going. What has always put me off is that Tony is a master manipulator. He has modelled his even like a rock concert to put people in an "adoring screaming fan" state. I see through it all and hence never been to a seminar.
That, and I have listened to a few of his, om audio. I just tell people truthfully " I overheard This is not "hate". Can he "motivate"? Buy please, consider your source, when THEY condone lying. Just a "personal" conviction and observation.. You use an interesting firm of self promotion. Bash a life coach and state how much I can do better.
This is just another sales gimmic right? Yes - Too generalized. I grew up in a hostile, volatile world. So much that I took care of my mother from the time I was Nine until Seventeen. I bare a burden that to provide for my family at fifty Three with no college degree , little book knowledge, but one thing I do have his common sense.
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I am ready to make a giant leap to own my own Business, but how with no funds, what with no skills. Time is my enemy , and fear rules my days and nights. I have no family because my two brothers are mentally exhausted from a life of fear and hate. Loneliness is a terrible place. Have you ever wanted to get in your car and just drive forever, and start all over alone? I have more questions than answers. Your comments make sense and made me think quite a bit. I would love to hear more about your workshop or others that you recommend.
I appreciate your comments. I'm not a "rah-rah" fan, and this guy seems to be the best. Also, the whole thing seems to be narcissistic in it's goals. But there's definitely a spiritual component missing. I'm not a "rah-rah" fan either. I don't like the idea of some random dude rubbing my shoulders either. He has the "gift of the gab" as my Dad used to say, but I agree the repertoire is over done and should be less of a show.
I am a Christian too and I have even seen these antics in some churches. For events to have a powerful and trans-formative impact they don't need to be run like circus or rock concert. There can be a lot of power in a persons humble presence and the sensitivity with which they engage a crowd. I think of Jesus and the powerful impact He had that is still being felt today. I agree there is the spiritual component missing.
Jesus said, "My words are Spirit and life. I think that is missing. I'm so glad to hear someone say Tony Robbins is not worth going to see. I can't believe people would spend thousands of dollars to go see him! Thank you, Noah! You have no idea how many great things you missed out on by leaving early! Even Oprah, Who never stays more than 3 hrs anywhere; got so involved that she stayed entire day and walked over coals that night!
So anyone looking for advice Isn't that exactly what he is advocating? Making your own decision? He also mentions that for specific problems this event is life changing. Just not for his. And to be honest, that makes me much more interested, then all these claims that "one size fits all". Yet knowing what to do and how to do it is only part of the solution.
I have to date find a lecture speaker that can Quantify what they are teaching. It seems that the use of NLP and or other suggestive pattern based dialog has allowed them to influence people. The disturbing fact is most of them don't understand what they are teaching by NOT really knowing why it actually works.
Is there anyone that can clarify motivation, sales, mental health in an equation that is absolute? A mathematical equation that defines "why" all these language patterns work? I'm just not getting why people need other people to tell them what they can and should do? How is a mass-cult like environment going to help an individual who is lost or has no sense of direction? Also, if he is so successful then why does he keep doing these seminars?
If the answer is to help people then why the hefty cost? Just some thought that comes to mind in making sense out of this. Thank you for so freely expressing everything I felt in a far more concise and less personal manner than I would have. It was miserable, and it only made me more miserable to realize that my boss bought into this sales pitch and thought this was a good use of company resources and funds. This is great for folks who have a tough time getting motivated. Not so great for self-motivated individuals.
It felt like remedial math. I would sooner give myself a labotomy than listen to him prattle on endlessly about his own self-importance. Self - Importance ironically being something he condemned during the seminar. A true narcissist in rare form. I skimmed through your article to get the best of it. I agree with you. Depth, going inward is the hardest, most rewarding work and probably has the best chance for real change. I've never been to a Tony Robbins seminar, however, had about a 2 hr live intro experience with him and so I have an awareness of what you experienced.
At this point of my personal growth, I do not think I would even accept an 'all expense paid trip' to one of his events. And I do think well of Tony Robbins.
Considering that I've been in digital media for almost a decade now, I hope that goes to show you how deeply this article struck me. While I truly believe in personal growth and development, I've grown to have a great disdain for the fluff in the event space. So much so that in fact, I no longer attend events at all. The fluff, fake excitement, touching your neighbor ew It's my opinion that if you've sought out growth in an intentional way for more than one year - most of the events will leave you wanting more. I left that event and spent most of my time doing exactly what you described as well.
My personal growth day was incredibly valuable and I'm thankful that I had the courage to stand up, walk out, and take back control. So here's to you - congratulations on following your intuition, knowing what is right for you, and being brave enough to share it with the world. I don't think Tony is Jesus and I don't want him to be the president of the United States but I've seen a lot of events and I found it whenever I'm skeptical about what he's doing and why I think it through I realized later he was ahead of me on that and it does make sense.
Watching him do this many times I realized that it would be very useful to me to do more of this upselling my own business too. He's upselling more training and decent supplements I buy from jarrow and garden of Life and solgar not Tony Robbins so I'm not endorsing the products just the concept - he's not asking you if you want fries with that and a large soda.
It wasn't for you. I get it. Most of these courses were designed by early 20's Tony Robbins and, over 30 years, have't really changed; they are mainly intended for people without direction. Business Mastery is early 30's Robbins and would be more pertinent to a man in your position.
And, if you did not walk across Fire at UPW Congratulations on your success and it is my strongest suggestion you utilize your platform with eyes wide open to the masses and the influence you may have. Headsets and covert information gathering are used to direct him to people in the audience from data gathered from intake forms and team member reconnaissance.
Great informing article. Noah you really have excellent points that could constructively bring answers and or ideas to many people. You could present valuable seminars yourself. I feel Tony has lost a bit of the basic ideas that "focus" each of us toward the path we desire through the length of time of his presentations. It is almost as if he is presenting old ideas into an updated version of previous seminars. I walked out of a Tony Robbins seminar back in So, there are some of us who felt uncomfortable with the rock-n-roll "cult-like" feel of the event. As my husband and I left, we were accosted by what I jokingly refer to as the "men in black" even though a woman led the pack.
They were Tony Robbins employees, I presume. And they did whatever they could to stop us from leaving, which was a further put-off. It made me want to leave even more. I was almost waiting for them to wrestle us to the ground and hogtie us to prevent us from leaving; that is how intense it was getting. I never attended another Tony Robbins event again. While I do like listening to some of his stuff on YouTube and I do like his positive uplifting vibe, I don't care for all the "fluff," dancing, shoulder-massaging, putting your finger in your nose, and the rest of the stuff you have to wade through for 3 days just to get something out of the event.
It's really unnecessary for most of us who just want to get to the root of what's holding us back from our dreams. I find listening to his interviews, audios and youtube videos to be incredibly valuable. As for the seminar i cant comment as I've never been. I think people saying hes a scam and whatever else are either deaf or blind bc if you listen to what he teaches, majority of it makes sense and has helped millions of people.
Every dollar hes earned hes deserved. And those commenting on his personal life, Tony even said in his 20s - 30s he wasn't the same man he is today. If the man can help you with your problem just search on youtube for Tony robbins depression for example , then listen to what he has to say. For me, he's been a real game changer.
I have been an avid fan of Tony's for decades and always up for learning and growing. I guess it just wasn't for the writer. I have attended numerous Tony Robbins seminars. TONY helped empower me to make millions at a time when I had very little money. I am a single mother struggling mentally and financially trying lately to rewire my brain. On top of not feeling secure, not having support system, I also discovered I self sabotage by isolating which helps my procrastinating.
Tonight I started looking into maybe attending a seminar. I hope that made sense Lol. Tony and Dean run nothing but a Ponzi scheme, they're a pair of very enigmatic, clever and well-trained shills. They know exactly what to say to get people to keep coughing up money to upsell their The challenge is that I need this to become part of me. Part of my daily action. I can't get that by going to a seminar. The only way I'm going to master this material is by reviewing it daily, implementing, and then reviewing my implementation every night. Optimistic that this time next year I'll see some fruit from this discipline.
As sad as it is, I likely won't ever go to one of his events. Because I can't master the material in one day. Or seven. That only comes from within and you need to get that bit straight first. Genuine loving kindness is what we ARE when we identify and dissolve the ego. TR focusses on making ourselves a better ego, which is great- but not the answer. Great business model mind you, right? As an example for reference, take the likes of Eckhart Tolle and the Dalai Lama. Which one would we rather be?
I agree totally with your views, and it was great to read your comments. Definitely contradictory to what Tolle teaches. Well said. Undoubtedly, the most prominent con man of our generation. If he's the guru of self-help, why couldn't he fix his own marriage? He cheated on his 1st wife almost immediately after the wedding having a child with his mistress.
Incredibly, his wife forgave him but he later dumped her for a younger blond. Now he's embroiled in sexual harassment accusations involving 4 female employees Great role model. Can you link to more information about this? Seems like a big accusation and I'd like to read more about it. Tony's seminars are custom created for peope who want to be a part of a bigger group.
They LOVE the evangelist unity with other people. You're a sapiophile tho. An introvert, I guess? WE hate the group mentality. Tony is a sapiophile, too, which means he enjoys it because he IS the one mind in the room. They give their power to someone else, and in turn, receive a sense of empowerment, a sense of unity. I love Tony as much as you do. I personally coach sapiophiles and avoid getting anywhere near physiophiles. They make great followers, but not very good thinkers. I prefer coaching the intellectual type, who finds it super hard to find ANYTHING worth reading in this world - and wants to figure things out for themselves.
I want to offer a light help, but something they can't find at a 10 person seminar - all due credit to Robbins - who was the reason why I started in the first place Because he is phenomenally good at what he does, and I wished I was half as good. Now, I feel I'd gladly coach him for a while Tony Robbins facilitated a deeply discounted seminar in Atlanta, GA. It was awesome! My initial goal was to be the "female" version of Tony Robbins. As my skills grew beyond professional speaking, I realized many people consider "motivational speaking" a joke.
Too much fluff and very little substance. I don't want to be a joke, so I choose a different path - corporate training. Something with a bigger message than "be a better you". I'm not money driven so for me, it isn't about money. You only have to look at Tony's typical rate of emails to know he's a complete bully. I get at least one email a day from the list, sometimes two, and it's heinous. I'm just glad nobody out there has my danged phone number!
You walked out due to being out of your comfort zone basically.. What did you have to loose by completing the entire four days? Then perhaps, only then, would any of your words In the article have substance. Feel the fear, do it anyway my friend. Regards S. I get it and I deeply respect you!
Yet you missed out on transformation day and in the fire walk. Your authenticity will attract a great relationship? This article is so well written with no childish anger or rantings. All of your examples were informative and described with a completeness for understanding the situation. Your reason for leaving was intelligent and logical. You wrote information without emotional garbage woven into it. I so appreciate accuracy when people write about experiences.
I didn't find anything in this that push me to believe he's unaware by any stretch of the imagination. I went into this with high levels of doubt. I leave with a huge respect for this person's ability to self evaluate. Me too, enormous respect for a well written article. We have some of the best reputations in the world. ORG best organisation in the world! Some people view it as a cult. Recovery might mean liberation from the cult and possible brain washery. This is a ridiculous statement.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are a brainwashing, fundamentalist cult that teaches people it's okay to abandon their families, judge other people and "shun" people through disfellowshipping which is both illegal and unethical , to name but a few of the core practices that run through every day life within the religion. I could go on. To say that someone who has left the religion and is trying to rebuild their life, figure out who they are outside of the constraints of being told what to say, do and act, and find a sense of purpose and meaning beyond that experience, is "recovering" is very apt.
I am from Africa and I learnt about Tony's materials while I was looking for ways to develop myself the more. Tony helped me to look at the angles I wasn't focusing on before. He did his own part of the job and I did mine and today am a better version of who I was. I think that is the ultimate aim of Tony's work. I thought I was the only one.
I walked our after the first day, too. I had been listening to and reading Tony Robbins for 20 years. After a bout in the hospital due to overwork, my wife gifted me with a ticket to UPW. I was so excited. But, after waiting in the hallway for 4 hours before being let in, I felt totally mistreated and the seminar took on the smell of BS.
I committed, however, to staying around for the Firewalk, because I wanted to challenge myself and I didn't want anyone to say that I chickened out. That was a great experience. I called my wife from the firepit and told her that I had just walked on hot coals. By 4 AM, I was back home in my own bed with my wife. You are totally correct that Tony is very superficial. After the seminar, I embarked upon a campaign of going into depth on the subject where Tony barely scratches the surface.
The effect was amazing. As it turned out, one of my office mates was an NLP trainer. I got nominated for an Emmy for my work with a local TV station. I was awarded the black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate with ever setting foot in a Kempo school. I have a start-up, PunditNetwork. I learned to meditate and practice at one of the best meditation centers in the Western world, which, as it turns out is just around the corner from my house.
I designed my own stock portfolio. A couple of financial planners showed me how they would have invested my money over the last few years. As you say, Tony is superficial and, sometimes, dangerous. His financial book is a mass of contradictions. Tony's gift is pointing people in the right direction. But we have to remember that Tony seminars are just the beginning of a long journey. He showed me possibility and inspired me to step up and create change. I too wanted to walk out. I wanted to leave after the first 5 minutes and then after the first hour.
I wanted to leave all the way through the first day. So I let go of my own judgements and expectations. I stopped being so self-conscious. I through myself in and yes, I massaged everyone and danced like an idiot with strangers and all the other excruciating things an uptight self-conscious person like me hated. Things started to really change. Day 2, 3 and I could feel the shift. I was genuinely changing. Every day for the next year I worked on myself and reminded myself what I needed to remember about myself and life. It was the year I broke free. How you spent you day was truly valuable and we all need more of those.
But you could have done that at any time. When you consider all the people he has inspired, who go on to become coaches, therapists, etc, and all the people they go on to impact, his positive reach is a phenomena. This is an excellent comment. The superficiality might have belonged more to Noah's approach than to the Seminar. It's very subjective. But sticking it out one the day in the case of George, and that might be the best lesson from all of this. People are always searching for answers where sometimes there are none.
Robbins makes money off of that fact, with pablum and half baked motivational statements that do nothing. In day one he pulled some random guy from the audience who balled his eyes out about having done horrible things and everyone cheered this guy in the end because Tony saved him.
On the last day I saw this same guy but in a video clip Tony showed and this guy was in the background as a volunteer- it was all staged. I know from an insider this is how it works. I saw a lot of this, and waaaay too much dancing and messaging and listening to puffery. And now R faces several allegations of sexual misconduct, and bullying. Another one bites the dust.
Please save us from the Type-A, "over-the-top," caffeinated gurus who take our money and I hear you. Similar experience with other "motivational speakers". The sheep feel better for a few days, then crash back into reality, then decide that they need another seminar. These speakers have perfected the recipe for creating seminar junkies. Walking out on anything - from a movie to a book leaves you with uncertainty.
It also denotes that you rely heavily on others to do your thinking for you. Being around positive people creates positivity. You have failed entirely by observing this key factor in his factor in any lesson - regardless if it's Tony Robbins or a complex movie. Thanks, they talk to much. Too much about self empowerment which is not possible. Trust God and ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart.
You will find the real truth of spiritual empowerment. Tony and many like him have great concepts but too much of it and you sink deep into the abyss of wishing. Read romans and find the Christ for your self. Truly finding contentment in Christ is empowering. The Bible calls us to allow our convictions, not our circumstances,to govern our sense of contentment.
True biblical contentment is a conviction that Christ s power, purpose and provision is sufficient for every circumstance. Thanks for your content, I just with drew from his lattest course, before I come across your info. I find him to be an ego maniac. That one comment alone made me buy his tapes.
That was a multi-million dollar analogy!! Interesting take on that event - I would not be able to sit through that either. Flashing strobe lights — jumping up and down — loud music, other peoples hands on me and Tony dropping F- Bombs just sounds awful. He on the other hand is single has no home, no real money and recently overcame a big drug addiction. A Google search cannot replace a medical degree and using recipes from Epicurious. In his own words I watched his special on Netflix and enjoyed it. I think it would be useful for many people to attend one of his events.
At times it has a cult like feel to it, he swears too much, and he's too full of himself. Still, he has great skills as a communicator, and I think he has a good heart. I feel the good outweighs the bad. I think whatever you wanted, you had expectations that weren't met, you could have just enjoyed the experience and got the most from it possible. To "walk out" To "walk in" To "make" those decisions He should be "giving" to the masses!!
He has cleverly found a way to take billions of dollars from fragile, vulnerable people with his modern day tent preacher messiianic performances. Inevitably all men like this end of falling too much in love with their own shit and eventually come crashing down. For as public and nauseantingly name dropping as King Tony projects himself onto the common people ,we know so little about his private, intensely guarded personal like. My guess would be that his current life is checkered with heartache, embarrassment ,disappointed and frustration just like everyone else.
I predict that when the man boy king comes crashing down back to earth it is going to be very ugly. Let us all just sit back, wait and see. I dont think youve done your research really. Tony has 18 companies which are doing 5 billion in sales and he is using most of that money for charity. This year hes gonna feed a million people and next year double that. Also to me it sounds like youre quite bitter and jealous of how happy of a life he seems to be living, i can tell from the "just like every one else" and the second half of your answer. I think all of us need to sit back and self reflect on what we say and do and think sometimes.
It has shocking ratings Go to Fiji and talk to the locals where he has his ridiculously expensive resort. He gives next to nothing back. I would say do YOUR research - although he has made it very difficult to uncover the truth as he has an army of lawyers ready to threaten anyone who speaks out against him.
Written with love? You were overwhelmed. But you actually made fun of his clap. The guy had a brain tumor. And maybe it impacts his physical mobility. Very honest and interesting. I have seen Tony over the years raving about his supernatural ability to inspire everyone into action based on his perceptions of life here on earth. We are all as unique as every grain of sand.
Tony as well. Unfortunately his cult following haven't realized that yet and think he has all the answers because he is so convicted. Don't be sheeple people.
Think for yourself, the answers are within. My friend, I understand the urge to leave UPW, but you might have done yourself a disservice by leaving early. On a side note, you might have been a bit disingenuous when you criticized the nutrition part of UPW which you obviously did not attend. I attended many of his events over the years and started with a high level of trust.
His early books were so congruent that I made a decision to trust that he and his team knew what they were doing. If you attended many events like I, you would have also noticed that he repeats many of the same anecdotes. That bothers me as much as it bothers me to re-read great works of literature.
Unleashing the Power Within is a lifetime commitment. For me, UPW was an effective way of breaking patterns that were ingrained and no longer served me. Through it all I have observed how Tony Robbins does not pretend to have all of the answers, he just knows how to convey the latest breakthroughs in business, relationships, personal development, nutrition and personal finance in a caring and powerfully efficient manner. If you do, I think you might find that your life will never be the same again.
Thanks for this! I just sat through an AGONIZING infomercial of his and some other big deal motivational type - though it was ever so cleverly disguised as something that would teach strategies about how to create such and such kind of business, blah blah. I hung on, waiting, waiting to be given at least one practical tip, but no - repetition ad nauseum, and, well, you get the drift. And I, too, have a lot of respect for TR, in my way. But I also know for sure that when someone truly feels confident deep within, they don't go on and on and on about the money, the celebrities, the money, the money, etc.
I literally have a headache. Funnily, I was toying with the idea of writing him a letter on his site when I saw this. I mean, I knew already what I thought and felt was accurate, but just at the moment, it was nice to be validated. Best of everything to you!
I think I'll just go have a nice dinner. That's so amazing that you had the idea of writing to him. I recently almost attended his london upw seminar but for a myriad of reasons I didn't go. I watched a short interview he did with Russel brand and he said something about his many houses!
In that moment I knew he needed help. He also needs to grow to help others as he is having such a large impact on many people. He is an instrument of God but he is letting him down in many ways. Maybe you are an earth angel like me. I think you and I should reach out to him the better he is the better we all can be! Much love to you all xx.
Tony got me started in self improvement 25 years ago. Tony takes what they teach and makes business around it. Just saw a documentary "I am not your guru". His vulgar language there can only prove that his own methods don't work on him. F words in almost every sentence when he speaks to person in the crowd. The great Tony doesn't seem to be so great anymore. Has he ever been?
I had to snap out of it. Very dangerous. That's my opinion. He is powerful for a reason. I also walked away I would dare to say that you were empowered to leave, which for many would be a breakthrough in itself! I can't tell you how many times I've felt exactly the same way about one seminar or another. I'm willing to wager you got the most benefit from that UPW event of all the attendees because you could look at it with a clear eye and take what value there was from it.
Most of all, you got the gift of time that time and every other time you choose not to go to another of these events. Cheesy is an understatement and the fact that others found it to be motivating is absolutely mind blowing. I followed Tony for years and implimented so much into my life. Then I began to struggle physically, mentally and emotionally. After years of struggle I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.
I struggle cognitively and physically. This contradicts what I learned from Tony for years. Hi Mike, I too have ms rrms and was diagnosed in Probably started when I was about Would you like to share with me what you would like Tony to do. I just recently discovered this guy through Netflix. I too have to monitor my energy. I have a 6 year old son and am a single mom. If you'd like to talk privately about it you can find me on facebook.
Hi Noah, Just found this in April Thank you - I needed this story. He changed my life in many ways. I went with high hopes. I left after the first evening session after refusing to participate in the firewalk. It has pained me ever since. With your post I have repositioned the experience as empowering. Thank you. I feel like a lot of the things you say hold a certain resistance.
The point in so many things I think is not to find out if you like or dislike, but what thought patterns lie at the base of your opinion and if you can set yourself free of it if you choose to. And in that sense everything is interesting and adds value to your experience. The jumping up and down I feel is a vital part of the experience.
Even if you did zero, you were entitled to feel the way you felt. If not, the reason why people have been able to continuously grow. Cheers mate! I like the way you confidently state your position while respecting that of the author's. You also shared valuable advice:; instead of complaining about what we don't enjoy or find as "a good use of our time", get curious about it, explore and learn from the experience. What is it about ME that is not making the connection?
And if you did get something out of the experience, what is it about you that allowed that? I enjoyed reading your comment. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm sorry you felt UPW did not meet your expectations. I went in and I can honestly say, not only did I learn a lot, but I draw upon that information almost daily, and almost a reflex. Raise your standards. Change your state, change your story, change your strategy are words i live by. Even that direction, don't sip your water, chug it while its at your lips, to get your intake up I did not hire a TR coach.
My bf is a life coach, walks the walk, so I have that I attended the UPW in London and didn't really feel I got the value for money for all the reasons you explained. First of all, Tony only showed up 2 of the 4 days he was meant to deliver, there was also a lot of hard selling, trying to get people to sign on for the upcoming events.
I didn't attend the last day as I thought I wasn't going to miss anything. I did feel empowered and I will continue to do my best and apply myself. Very interesting read! I agree with what your saying one to one with an individual helps over come fear I am interested in attending one of your seminars. You did what it was right for you and applaude you for your courage. In my opinion , I don't need a 3 day seminar to love mysel.
I read books on self growth. Learned to Love myself unconditionally. Bravo for your point of view. We have freedom and choices. Very fair review which is hard to find these days. I attended UPW at excel in and whilst I have overcome a lot of personal issues I had with self love over the last few years I really did find it inspirational. What I did like was he practiced what he preached and it was a great spectacle as you would expect from the US. I feel the reason feel the constant music and clapping was to invoke emotion in people, as explained this is how words make an impact.
I trust that everything that we had to do there was for a reason. It certainly helped me get some focus and provided me with techniques to deal with bad emotions. Thanks for writing this article! I was interested to see what the event was like as I know people who attend every year. I have never felt so isolated in my life, yet I was surrounded by 15, people. Lived next to two former personal assistants to the TR empire in San Diego who loved to talk shop.
Save your money friends!!! For two to five thousand dollars I'll go on a great vacation and read dome books on the Dharma because his whole act is based on the things Buddha said thousands of years ago. If you want to learn the causes and cessation of suffering go to a Buddhist event, not a to dollar screaming, yelling, massaging, self aggrandizing big guy who is a billionaire on your money.
Two thousand a head for three days. You do the math. Week after week, year after year, decade after decade. I agreed with you. I preferred attending a vipassana retreat more than attending any of these kind of seminar. It cannot help us eradicate the foot of suffering, this maybe one of the reasons that people keeps attending more and more seminars.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion! It changed my life and my future and I would encourage everyone to experience it for themselves! This article makes it sound like some lame event led by an ego centric, money grubbing, narcissist. Did you not start this article by talking about all your accomplishments in order to get people to take you seriously? I believe same as you. America spiritual and cosching world have niceee cheesy and superficial and just another business.
I agree. All that is around oneself is already within. Some need the push. Others do the pushing. It's a life long learning. Like the old saying "people are like sheep". They tend to follow the followers. There's no magic bullet. Near death experiences whether personal or shared will help create this profound awareness most seminars try to unleash. Every type of experience is personal. What now drives someone like Mr Robbins is money. Money to pay for the machine. It's a catch twenty two. His wonderful shared beliefs are now sold instead of being given. Once the giving becomes a commodity the original intent is lost on most.
I am 57 years old. Life will change and we all have to make decisions. Sometime not knowing the out come. Like the old saying goes " We Live We Learn". But if you pray and trust God after you research, etc. Then you can rest assured all things work together for good for those who belief. How this work. Well we learn from our mistakes and from our success. The most important thing is that God walk with us always because he never leave us or forsake us. Enjoy the journey of live and trust God always. Learn to share and give to others. Read the Bible that is the best self help book, and spiritual guide and fulfillment ever written.
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