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Major, yesterday, who came to I don't know exactly how old Dr. Major is, but he came from the era of home visits, you know, doctors, the black bag, arriving on your doorstep. And that was a different way of organizing medical care. I'm not an expert to say whether it was a better way or a worse way, but it's different. And we live in a different time now, and a lot of these questions are more complicated, because there is a lot of medication, there're a lot of treatments, there're a lot of things, artificial respirators and other things, that these questions maybe aren't quite as clear-cut anymore.

And trying to find the line You spoke about intent. And Dr. Somerville just spoke about intent. But I'm still If someone is plugged in, and, by unplugging, that person's life ends, some of those fears you raised about a large inheritance or a big life insurance policy remain there. And has there been abuse? Have there been all sorts of people unplugging mom and dad to get inheritance? That's not my I don't have proof of that, no one suggested that and anything else. So, I just wonder about some of these sort of fears because end of life is more complicated.

You had an experience with your mother. Both my parents died of cancer, and I found that end of life more I want this treatment, want that treatment. You talk it over with a parent who is heavily medicated, who doesn't really know. I don't know Is this a good idea, drag them downtown to the hospital for another five weeks of radiation therapy? Is this a good idea or not? I don't know. I mean, that's what we're confronted with, now, so, this notion of a natural death, I understand it in the abstract, but we live in a society where natural death is a pretty rare bird, right now, and as it made some of these ethical issues more, and not less, complicated.

I still think there are some important distinctions, though. I mean, I think there And I don't think, you know, withholding treatment or refusing treatment, for example, is in the same category as euthanasia. I think there are those distinctions. My mother had the opportunity to I suppose she could have taken some kind of chemotherapy.

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And she decided to do that and lived out whatever days she had. I don't see So, I would say that was a natural death. And then she also chose But that would be quite different from giving an overdose of morphine or whatever. Kelley : No, I mean, I don't know the answer to my question. That's why I throw it out, because it seems to me, you know, we take a lot of comfort, but, you know, letting someone starve to death, that's fine, because in certain circumstances feeding someone is a treatment.

I have a right to remove the feeding tube. I'm still trying I struggle with it, and I don't know what the answer is. But that's a natural death, but, instead of having the person starve to death, I put an injection of another medication in patients that are usually medicated to the gills anyway on a lot of other substances. That that's ethically wrong, I'm still having trouble finding where these lines are.

And, what the doctors But, if I do something a little more proactive, that's the end of the world, and I'm That's a lot of these areas that, I think, what the questions of the Members I mean, I'm not a doctor. I guess you'd have to take them on a case by case basis where, to remove a feeding tube from one person might be a very intentional way of killing that person, letting him actually starve to death.

But, in another case, my understanding would be that it would be more in the line of So, you remove it, the person doesn't starve to death, he dies of the cancer or whatever it is that is working on him. And I saw this recently, I was thinking about your commission while visiting a gentleman, about the early part of the month, in the Jewish General, who is in this very position.

And he was in pain, but then the doctors would come and give him some medication, he would calm down and he would be okay until the pain was wearing And they did it at a certain point, removed tubes, everything was shutting down, he was really dying. So, I think there is I had a quote and Kelley : Thank you very much. My colleague from Laurier-Dorion. Sklavounos: Thank you, Mr. Reverend Vaudry, thank you for being present and thank you for your views. I just want to reiterate, I feel more comfortable starting this way, saying that I am definitely part of no movement and the choice of the title was intended to be neutral.

Even though we have You're not the first person to have commented that it could be perceived differently, And Dr. Somerville, my professor, right before you, made the same comment. I just want to maybe explore a couple of things. I thought the question of President Kelley was actually fantastic, a good one, but I want to take down maybe another angle, take another angle with you. And the classic example we hear about is I want to know, from your point of view, whether there is any distinction I mean, I do understand and everybody is welcome here, and I feel it's important to say that people of faith, although we have a pretty good idea what you're going to say before you show up, you are as welcome as anybody else and your opinion is as valid as anybody else.

And at least, I want to make sure that you understand that from my point of view. Do you see some kind of distinction? Because, I We've had people come and argue that it would be discriminatory to open up to one of these categories of people just because people would be sick and said, while you're willing to look at the question differently just because someone is sick or maybe dying, whereas you're not willing to look at the question that way for the young guy who wants to jump off the bridge because he just lost his girlfriend?

Do you see a distinction, do you see a similarity? Is the fact that that illness and an inevitable imminent death somewhere not an intervening factor that's important, that causes us or should cause us to analyze it differently? Well, yes, I would think that there is, very clearly. I mean I really don't agree with either one. I would want to try to prevent people from committing suicide, and I think there is an ethical, moral problem there.

But, certainly, in euthanasia or I mean, that is certainly somebody deliberately killing another person with assisted suicide. If it's true assisted suicide, then the person is helping the person to do it himself, and so we're back to suicide again. The fact that the person is ill I guess we've got sympathy for the person who is heartbroken as well. So, I'm not sure that I really see the difference between those two things. I don't know if that's what you're getting at, but Sklavounos: I'm just Oh yes, we just have a little bit of time.

What's your best argument for someone who comes to you and says: I'm a non-believer; so, you're not going to get me, for example, with any of the arguments that you'd convince maybe a member of the Church or something with? What's your best argument? Is it the one that Dr. Somerville made about the message we send out and social order, etc.? Our whole values would be turned upside down, I think, by legalizing euthanasia, then saying that it is permissible to kill some people, that it's not that every person has a right to life. So, I think that, yes, that would be one of my strongest arguments, and I guess also I would say that I really think that it's not necessary, that we have measures in place in our hospitals whereby we can, to a very, very large extent, control people's pain and help them, and I think that the better way to go is along the lines of palliative care and fostering more of a sensitive community, perhaps.

Mme Hivon: Merci, M. I would hope that all of us have a concern for those who are very ill or who are in pain. It's really kind of a question, I guess, of how we then deal with that pain. Again, I'm not a medical person and I can't speak with any great knowledge about pain control, and so on, but I really believe the way to go would be to use medication.

Now, it might mean increasing the dosage; a person might need a great deal of pain medication. And, yes, it's true that may indirectly hasten the person's death. But again, I come back to saying that it would not be your intention, your intention is to relieve the pain. The other is It's just something that is likely to happen, but you are not willing that or desiring that. But the thing would be to relieve the pain, and I just believe that surely there are ways to do that. But I'm not speaking as a medical person, or that we can work also on developing better ways.

Maybe that's another thing. I mean that But it's done as a treatment rather than with the intention of hastening the person's I think, again it comes back to intention. I guess it might seem to be It might be hard to see how it's not just a kind of a gray Kelley : On that note, Reverend Vaudry, thank you very much for coming.

Kelley : Je vais suspendre quelques instants, and I would ask Mr. Our next witness, as the first of many citizens we'll be hearing from today, speaking on his own behalf and not on behalf of a group or an organization, is Mr. Kelley : I know it's a Dutch name, and we've heard an awful lot about the Netherlands in the last few weeks Kelley All I know is that I once bicycled from Amsterdam to Brussels and it's a beautiful part of the world, so So, a presentation of about 15 minutes, followed by an exchange with Members of the committee.

Olsthoorn Gus : Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, for hearing me today on the subject. And I understand that it is related to end-of-life issues, not just helping people to die. I just want A preamble to my talk: I modified my talk a little bit from what I presented, but, as the names implies, Olsthoorn is a Dutch name. In the early '50s, my parents took a boat from Holland to Ontario and raised seven kids. And, about 17 years ago, my father, who I never knew to be sick, even taking Aspirin, contracted pancreatic cancer, and he passed away in seven months.

He had one treatment of radiation and that was more for As you know, pancreatic cancer is a very strong, aggressive cancer; so, at 66, he died. My father did not go to the hospital, he was in a bed at home, the nurses came on a daily basis to assist my mother and sister in looking after my father, and he was on a constant morphine drip and he withered away.

He was not himself, he wasn't there when he died. And, when my mother called to say: Your father passed away, I say: Thank God that's over! It was long enough, and the suffering is over, so I understand the question from Mme Hivon; it's gut wrenching. It is a gut-wrenching thing when it comes time to letting go, and I don't really want to speak to that today, I'm sure you've heard many stories and are going to hear more stories about that.

I want to talk today a little bit about principles that I hope that this committee will support when their report's done. Just one last anecdote: about two months before my father died, he told me something he had never told me before. I showed it I thought I showed it by the way I worked. But, if his life hadn't been ended earlier, I would have never heard him say that. So that's somewhat of a poignant point to me. I titled my talk Principles to Die For and I want to summarize it with five key principles that I think are essential for not only this commission, but for Canadians and for any civilized society.

End-of-life issues. It is no exaggeration that end-of-life issues are plagued with great emotion and sentiment that often cloud better judgment. After all, what decent human being would want anyone to suffer? However, decisions based on emotions are often regretted as the bigger picture is often overlooked in the heat of those emotions.

Perhaps the biggest picture is to be gained when we see human life from God's perspective, a unique and sacred gift, created in His own image. Or do we see people as just one of the many life forms on Earth, with no special inherent value? We kill and eat millions of animals. We euthanize those animals that are unwanted. Yet, is this how we are to treat our fellow human? Is this in keeping with God's command to love our neighbor as ourselves?

How we view each other ultimately rests on how we view God. So, why not simply euthanize people when they no longer can contribute to society? Why not dispose of them as unwanted dogs? And the threat and temptation to treat others that way is very strong, and only our shared belief in the sacredness of human life will prevent us from sliding down the road to this despotic level that unfortunately is not so rare. The cost of living. A utilitarian society that views people only in terms of money will ultimately make decisions based on economics.

Surely it is far cheaper to dispense an extra dose of drugs to speed up the dying process than provide special care for perhaps many years. What will prevent us from putting a price tag on human life? Without a deep commitment to the intrinsic value of each human life, eventually only the rich will be able to pay for their lives. The poor will be some of the first to go. What will prevent our society from reaching those depths? How much money will you or I need to stay alive?

This, then, must be the first principle: human life is sacred and must be treated as such. A lesson from capital punishment. In order to gain some perspective on end-of-life issues, it might be worthwhile to learn a lesson from how our country has dealt with capital punishment. Our country, among others, has banned capital punishment outright, even for those who have committed the most grotesque and heinous crimes against our citizens, based on a singular idea: we have outlawed capital punishment because of the perceived possibility that an innocent person might be put to death.

As a consequence, we have declared to any would-be murderers that, regardless of how many innocent people they kill, how many women they rape, how many children they molest, their life is protected. We guarantee it in advance. All this, based on the possibility that one innocent person might die.

Applying this then to end-of-life issues, it would seem very appropriate to also decide that, since we cannot guarantee that an innocent person will not be put to death, we must also outlaw euthanasia and assisted suicide. To do otherwise would be highly hypocritical, for, in the former instance, we protect all murderers for the sake of one innocent, while, in the latter, we would be willing to put to death many innocent for the sake of the few for whom it might be justified. The second principal therefore is this: we must not put anyone to death, for there is always the possibility that an innocent person might die.

The exception should not be the rule. We have become adept at postulating worst-case scenarios in trying to establish rules from them. Many have heard of the unlikely situation where a number of people are adrift in a boat at sea but there is only enough water for a few days. The question is asked to Unfortunately, these extreme exceptions are used to set precedents for the rule. For example, since we do not want to deny a woman who has become pregnant through rape access to abortion, we have effectively avoided making any laws at all regarding abortion and have washed our hands of the matter without consideration to how many innocent lives might be terminated.

The same will undoubtedly happen with euthanasia. We would become so torn up with how to ethically end a life of a person in great suffering that we will simply wash our hands of the death of anyone with life-threatening illnesses. So, rather than protecting the life of its vulnerable citizens, the government will look the other way while innocent people are essentially murdered. How can our government guarantee that this scenario will not happen if we have already dropped all laws regarding abortion?

As Mr. Justice Sopinka stated in Rodriguez versus Canada, assisted suicide is ungovernable. It is not possible to devise safeguards which could adequately protect the vulnerable. Those who are most likely to ask for euthanasia are those who are most vulnerable to pressure from family members and the health care system and fearful that they will become burdens to both.

The third principle is this: we must not make rules based on exceptions to a rule. Hunters are repeatedly taught that, if they are not sure what they are hunting is a deer, they must not fire their weapon to prevent the accidental death of a fellow human. Why then do we not apply the same logic to other life issues? So, let me contrast two controversial issues: capital punishment, which we banned outright because an innocent person might die, or abortion is permitted outright, even though innocents do die.

Why do we go out of our way to protect murderers when we go out of our way not to protect our future generation? Is there not a double standard here? So, with regards to euthanasia and assisted suicide, which will we choose: to protect life or promote death? If we are not sure that innocent people will die, we must ban the practice outright. There is no other way to protect us. The fourth principle is this: we must be a society that protects life at all costs. The challenge of a secular society.

By that, I mean it has decided to exclude God from the paradigm of modern existence. It falls then upon society to act as God instead. Thus, when faced with issues of great significance such as end-of-life issues, it has chosen to act alone and assume a role that has not turned out too well for societies that took on that burden. Thomas Jefferson understood well that acting as God is fraught with great risk. Jefferson understood full well that it was not the State that granted these unalienable rights, but that the State's role was to ensure that the rights conferred by the Creator were protected.

Many tragedies have befallen societies, especially in the 20th century, where governments took upon themselves the role of creator and assumed that the State itself was the endower of rights. It became an easy thing thereafter to believe that since the State had given those rights, it could also take those rights away.

Why God matters. One of the most fundamental questions humans can ask is summarized as: Did God make man or did man make God? If God did indeed make man, then man is accountable to his Creator. If man made God, then man can do whatever he wishes as he is accountable to no one save himself. As someone has said, without God, everything is permissible. History is rife with those who believed themselves to be above any accountability. By force of arms, terror and deception, these dictators manipulated and massacred millions.

For as long as they were in power, they were untouchable. The lust for power, wealth and prestige has corrupted many a good man and led many, also deluded, to their destruction and great remorse. Those or these, standing in the ashes of destruction, have asked: How did this happen?

The answer is simple: Man had forgotten God. Is Quebec destined to do likewise? Arrogance and pride are marks of a society on the verge of making great and deadly errors. Instead, learning lessons from so many others, we should humbly seek God for wisdom and direction so that we might do what is right in His eyes. End-of-life questions demand this kind of humble attitude. The last and possibly most important principle therefore is this: we must never forget that we are all accountable to God.

So, in summary, the principles are this: number one, human life is sacred and must be treated as such; secondly, we must not put anyone to death, for there's always the possibility that an innocent person might die; thirdly, we must never make rules based on exceptions to a rule; fourthly, we must be a society that protects life at all costs; and finally, we must never forget that we are all accountable to God.

We will start with an exchange with members of the committee. Mme Charbonneau: I might stumble on a couple of words, but I guess you can hear me out. I have a hard time with the cost of living. The mission we have is not to look at the cost of living. The mission we have is: Should we hear the people who ask us to die? When they come to us and they deliver their experience, they don't tell us they don't believe in anything.

They specially don't believe in pain, in suffering, in agony. They believe that they have the right to a natural death, which is not permitted to everyone. Natural death is something, actually, today, something that we cannot say, since If we take your father as an example, he didn't have all those treatments that changed him and made him die before his body decided to die. You saw him leave, you saw the difference.

I had a good life. I have people that love me. I have accomplished and decided that I don't want to go through the pain that is waiting for me, even though most of that pain will be relieved, I don't want to go through that. I wish to choose, to end it in another way. My family and I have decided a date, a certain ritual, a good supper, good wine, laughter, remembering. But when that supper will be over, I wish I could leave with serenity, I wish I could leave in calm and with the loving family that I have. Why can I not have that choice? Why do I have to wait that the pain and the illness that I have gain everything, and then I get to die?

What do I get to answer to that person? Olsthoorn Gus : Well, of course, you postulate one of the things I brought up before, as you brought up an exception, and many people do not die like that, you know, thankfully, many people don't. I've seen enough people who I remember another guy, Karl Scherb was his name. When I saw him, he was so emaciated, he was I think of somebody who came out of the Holocaust.

It's terrible, it's tragic. But I think, as a society, we need to say: We guarantee life, we do not guarantee death, death will come to everyone. So the principle we have to stand on is that we will protect life. Obviously, you cannot prevent suicide, you cannot prevent people who want to jump off a bridge and kill themselves. I had a colleague or a fellow student who shot himself because his wife had left him. Did he have the right to do it? I don't think so. He did it, and the rest of us were greatly shocked, over such a thing as just his wife left. I mean, obviously he was depressed and despondent, but society, as a culture, as a value, people But I don't think we should ever come to the place where we're going to tell people: OK, now you can die, now you can't die.

We should never come to that place where we will give permission to people to die. Mme Charbonneau: I'm going to stop you right now. A family came to us and said that the father shot himself. He chose, because he knew that nobody else could do it, to kill himself. The children were telling us that they were deprived of that precious moment where a father can say to their children: I'm leaving. There were The wife was deprived of that last morning where she left for work and didn't know, because he didn't want to tell her, he didn't want to make her a partner in that crime.

So she said So, when you say we should be careful to exception, that's what they said for an opposite reason. They said: You should be careful to exception, because we would have had him longer if he'd had the right to die. Olsthoorn Gus : But it almost implies that one day we're going to have To me that is repulsive to think that, you know, under State sanction, we're now going to be putting people to death, and the reasons, well, of course expand from somebody who is desperately ill and, you know, they're in terrible suffering, right, to, well, maybe we should expand the boundaries a little more to somebody who has just suicidal depression, you know, has suicidal depression tendency or just had decided: It's my right, I don't want to live anymore, and you, the State, have to pay for my death.

But let's make it easy for everybody and let's set a date. I find it horrifying. I don't know what else to say. Mme Charbonneau: But that doesn't answer the fact that exception could exist, exception situations. Olsthoorn Gus : Oh! There are exceptions definitely. I mean, people who want to end their life and All you have to do is press this little button, and we can speed this up. I'm not sure what I would have done. Emotionally, I would have probably said: You know, he's not going to get any better.

My sister kept telling him: Oh! You're going to get better, dad. He was half the size that he started out. I'm not sure what I should have done, but that was an exception. We should not make a rule saying that now everybody has the right to push the button and speed up somebody's life. That's what I'm concerned about. It's that we take these exceptions and then we pass rules to saying how people can kill each other, you know. Exceptions have to be exceptions.

Thank you very much for your presentation. You drew some interesting parallels with capital punishment in your presentation. I found that very interesting. And it prompted me to wonder like where does the Our society has recognized the right for a lady, a woman to terminate a pregnancy. And I was wondering where that sort of fit in your system of values, decisions being made decades ago. And, based on the principles you were enunciating Olsthoorn Gus : Well, that's a very good question, and I do have opinions on that. I recently became a grandfather, about six months ago.

I also have four sons myself and present at all their births. I find it hard to think that two hours before my sons or grandsons were born that they were not human. Or, should I say, maybe a month before they were born, they're no longer human. Or maybe two months before, they're no longer human, they were not human. At one point At what point does human life start? And some people We know that the viability of human life outside of the womb happens 22 weeks.

So, to tell me that there's somebody who'd say that it's OK to kill a child a month or week before they're born, somehow it's OK and they're That's why my reference to We have made no laws, we've actually abolished all laws regarding abortion in Canada simply because we got so caught up in the rights of women that we totally forgot about the right of the next generation. I find that Who's speaking for my grandson? Who's speaking for them before they're born? I know it's a tough issue too but again I don't see If we come to the place with It's too complicated, too emotional, too Let's just leave it to the doctor and, you know, the patient, or family and patient.

Then it will no longer become murder, it'll just become one of those unregulated things. Chair, Mr. Great people are Dutch. My spouse is Dutch. I just wanted to say thanks for coming out. Thanks for sharing your time with us. Just very quickly, my conception.

I may be wrong. It's my conception. I want to explore another issue with you, though. I come from a culture of people who were taught that you fight till the end. You don't give up. No matter what the odds are, against 10,, you fight till you're the last guy.

You go down. It's just not taught in our culture. But I have this movie scene in my mind, that keeps coming back to get me. It was one of the Vietnam movies. I don't know if it was Full Metal Jacket or Platoon , and one of the soldiers stays behind because he's got to go to the bathroom, and the guys, the rest of the platoon, the rest of the unit moves up and, at some point, he hasn't been So they go back looking for him and they basically see him on the ground, and he's been ripped apart.

His intestines have been literally ripped out. And the guy is in serious pain, I mean, I actually felt the pain watching the movie. Good movie. I don't remember which one it was, though. And he says Kill me! I'm in pain. And, if I remember correctly, it was a very, very difficult moment, because you felt the pain of his comrades, who are sitting above him, and Sklavounos: Yeah!

I mean, these guys have sworn to protect each other, and defend each other, and watch each other's backs. Yet the guy's on the ground and he's suffering. And, if I remember correctly, at some point, very quickly, he turns around, he puts a bullet in his head and he walks away. Like I say, I prefer saying You know, I come from a culture where, you know, we're taught to battle till to end no matter what the odds are. But I have difficulty seeing that guy put an end to his buddy's pain with a bullet in the head, when he was suffering, as just an animal; a killer.

I have difficulty just simplifying it like that. Can you help me with that a little bit, or Is it just the same thing, saying there are exceptions and sometimes it's easier, but as a society we don't want to go down the road of the exception because, as in the case of abortion or something, we start with exceptions and then it becomes generalized, and we lose control, or do you have something else to help me with that?

Because that's an image i'm battling with. Olsthoorn Gus : Well, your question is I would see it as the exception. I mean, I'm sure you've never run across somebody who was in the imminent stages of death or you could have put a bullet in their head. I'm not sure if I wouldn't do the same thing, knowing that it's an irretrievable situation. You can't get out of it. But, when you come out of that situation, you still maintain that I am for life. I'm for life. I'm going to the end.

But at some time the end comes awkwardly. It doesn't come cleanly. It would be nice to just say: O. Well, it's over. Everybody, go home! But it doesn't happen like that. So then you come to this, you know, this grey area, here, where You know, somebody says I would come down to If you have choices to make, and there are equal choices on either side, you know, you just simply have to make one of the two choices. It doesn't really matter. And I think you're looking for What I'm afraid of is that because of these exceptions, these gut-wrenching things, that we're going to end up making rules about everything and no longer respect that life is worth living, life is sacred.

We need to support life until it can no longer be supported. That's what I would hope that the commission ends up saying: We stand for life and we're protecting life. Sklavounos: We have that argument done and we're That argument has been noted and many have made it.

I'm not going to ask you another question, because we have no more time, but I understand that point. We're not You know, the society doesn't We have this right to terminate. The other point is that I think, though, society has to say that our value, our Canadian value is to protect life, protect it no matter where until When I mean all cost, it's in the sense of What if we don't have money?

What if we can no longer afford certain treatments? Olsthoorn Gus : I'm sure you have heard many people. I'm not sure I have an answer on the balance between personal autonomy and respecting the sacredness of live. They almost and sometimes seem to be clashing with one another which I think you're struggling with, and I heard your prior question and I can understand that it is extremely difficult and somebody asked you to come up with an answer.

I'm not sure that there is an answer. I mean, even Mr. Kelley expressed the same thought. We're here charged with coming up with some kind of answers. I come back to my point about, you know, a hunter. If you're not sure that, you know, you're going to put an innocent person to death, we should always side on the side that's protecting the innocent, that, you know, establishes rules that protect these people.

So that's why I'm advocating that we do not institutionalize euthanasia or assisted suicide. It's going to happen. I don't think there is any way that anybody could prevent it. But we need to instate laws that prevent it. That's why I believe our federal Government had decided not to advance a bill regarding assisted suicide and euthanasia because there are just too many risks, and as How do you Where do you set the rules?

And I think, while you're asking the question, you already realize there are no real solid clear-cut rules. Olsthoorn Gus : I think the fear comes from all three. My parents are from Holland, so I'm well aware of the situation in the Netherlands. Human nature being what it is, history has shown that people can do unimaginable evil. My mother was saying that in Holland, she lived in She's saying that the Dutch doctors were noted for their resistance to supporting the German They were noted for their resistance and yet, 50, 60 years later, they're one of the leaders in doing the same thing that the Nazis were doing.

Human nature is like that, society changes, and I fear for that, you know. Olsthoorn Gus : I'm just saying and reiterating what my mother had told me, that She said that Dutch doctors were opposing the Nazis and, you know, things like abortion and euthanasia, putting the terminally ill to death, they were noted for their resistance to that. And yet it seems to me that the Netherlands is a leader in putting, you know, assisted suicide and euthanasia and these types of My point is that the values of the Dutch doctors had flipped, had switched degrees in such a short time.

Obviously not all doctors and not all Dutch people, I know there are many good doctors So, obviously, they're not Nazis, I'm not trying to say that, but Kelley : On that note, thank you very much for your contribution today. I will suspend our work until Je vais rappeler le mandat de la commission.

And I believe it's Mr. McCallum who will start. Oh, it's John Fossey. And as I say, for the moment, go ahead and testify in English, and then you may need the headsets later on, when you may be asked questions in French. But for the first part, please, you don't need them to begin with. Fossey, Glenn Fossey and Ross Anderson. Fossey John W.

We're very glad to be able to speak and very impressed by the sincerity of your setup here, that I can see that it's a real effort, and it has been going for sometime, I think, you had some or more And it will be, what, and something when you finish? It's very impressive. And we would just say that we respect what the Government is trying to do. In fact, we respect Government, it's of God, God has instituted Government, and we obey its laws as much as we can, even stopping on stop signs, and things like that. But we respect Government, except where it might be against the conscience in which case God has to be obeyed rather than men.

But that would be something that would be faced in the issue involved, for instance, taking arms, and so on. And so our members And we represent Christians. We represent, we would hope, Christians universally or across the world, that is persons who believe in the Lord Jesus, persons who have the spirit, persons who don't fear death, because it's just the passage into another world where Christ is, he's gone before.

So that's what we represent. Our submission is very simple, really, you ought to read it, it has a preamble, and then there's a submission, and it's based on the Scriptures. Now, we heard lots of submissions or lot I was here this morning. So we appeal to the commission Members just to bare with us on that.

Because that's our stand. We believe that God has given the direction as to how we should be and that there's an answer in the Scriptures to every question. Now, whether we have the answers, we will see, but there is an answer for persons that are dependant on the Scriptures and on the spirit of God.

So what we would say is that we have a faith based on moral presentation today, and we haven't heard too much of it. We heard even church groups give their presentation and we don't see the simplicity of a moral approach, very rare. And so that's our stand, it's a life and death matter that we're talking about. And, when it comes to life and death, then we cannot leave out of it Christ's death, because he's God's man and he was rejected.

He suffered from the hands of men, cruelty of Roman powers, cruel men of Rome. He suffered rejection from his people. He suffered physically, he suffered at the cross. But then, above all, he suffered at the hand of God. Because a sacrifice was needed, and the only sacrifice that would appease God's judgement was the sacrifice of the Holy Son of God. And so we don't apologize for this approach because we know that God is a compassionate God, we know that he's a loving God. We know that he has provided force, he doesn't want us to die a death without hope. He's given us hope.

And we would just like to get that across that we have to respect that. And so what we are saying here is that we think the moral approach has been overlooked. You say: Well, everybody doesn't believe it, and that's why I think everybody that we've heard utmost even wanted to go the route of what's moral, because people don't believe it, and you want to appeal to everybody.

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Well, God is like that; he doesn't leave anybody out. He's without prejudice and without any distinction, whether it's language or color, or sex, or whatever it is. God's appeal is to all men. And Christ came in order that all men might be saved. And it is that And we want to be on his side, not on the side of the devil. Christ is gone beyond where the devil could get him, he's in heaven now.

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  5. He's still a man, you know? He's a man with feelings as a man. And he's interceding for us, and he loves us, and he doesn't want us to die without hope. And so we have all these questions of distinguishing between giving care to the extent of lethal injections or not lethal injections, and we have all these questions about the distinction, you know, between how to care for persons, do the right thing. I believe the Scriptures have the answer. And so I spoke about the cross, you know, the cross of Christ. We have crosses all over the place, you know, but as the cross of Christ is the center of God's thinking for man, it was before time began that God had the cross in mind.

    And everything looks forward to it, and everything since then looks back to it, and everything is based on what that was done there. The blood of Jesus Christ, the one who died and shed his blood, the blood of Jesus Christ cleans us from all sins. Do we believe it? Do we believe it or do we think we have another answer, you know? But that's the answer. And so we're Christians, and we believe it's right to be a true Christian, and we believe that we would speak for all Christians.

    There is an instinctive background to people, I believe, in this country, in this province, that would recognize the rights of God. And so it's the rights of God that come up when it comes to the question of dying. Have I the right to take it into my own hands? Have I the right to give it to doctors to do it? Have I the right? I don't think we have the right. It's not morally right. So any legislation that we're talking about here, what is going to be presented by this distinctive commission to the Government eventually, what is it going to be?

    You've listened to all these And, you know, the sincerity of the commission is very impressive. But what is it going to be? Is it going to be something that honors God or is it going to be something that dishonors God? Is it going to be something that honors the Church or is it going to be something that the Church would be, should we say, not supporting? What we do, and what Government does, has to be what God can support. And so, you see, we have plead with the commission. If you're not being sure up to now, well, be converted.

    If you feel that there's something, well, be convicted, reconvicted about it, you know. And then, if you're convicted, be convinced about it that this is the way we must not allow Government to legislate euthanasia or assisted suicide. Now, the previous speakers in the room before tried to distinguish between the two, but it's a question of what's morally right, you see. And that makes it very easy to answer; it's not morally right to take your own life. One man wanted to do it and he was a Roman soldier.

    And his charges had disappeared, or thought he had Et le matin, lisseur. Bon courage en tous cas ;-. I like your bun. Maria always has her hair in a low bun. So, so classy. She is a real inspiration to me in terms of style and lifestyle, and a lovely person. Audrey Hepburn often wore a bun. So did Katharine. A bun is better than a ponytail, or a big clip, which is what I resort to when I want my hair out of my face.

    Oh my goodness Garance. I LOVE that illustration!! You know, in capital city of humidity…. It may seem tedious at first, but I have figured that if I do it a couple of times a week it really becomes easier. Overabundance of hair, Garance, all those lucky fine-haired girls out there who keep admiring the likes of us have got no idea how mixed a blessing it is…. For myself, I finally listened to the advice of a beauty expert and my hair stylist. Must be the first time I actually listened to anyone when it comes to beauty, but anyway: They have finally convinced me that with the type of hair I have, i.

    Which means in practice: I no longer brush it if I can help it. What I do is: I comb it out after washing with a very broad comb. I put a tiny bit of serum in the ends to keep them intact. On the contrary: the kind of more even diffusion of warm not hot! Believe me or not, but it made my hair so much more manageable. I can actually put it up in an ordered way now and noone is more amazed at that than I am.

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    Take care! Non non non! Vive le naturel! Moi je vote pour les cheveux de lionne! I have the same kind of hair as you, and I really think blowing it out is a total horror show. A blow out is always fun, but for every day???? Look to DVF for inspiration! They helped get me back on track. Quelle plaie! Dear Garance, I have really curly hair as well, and trust me, our worst enemy is to blowdry our hair! Let it dry naturally and apply some anti-frizz serum on the ends!


    Thats my only secret ; Love your blog!! I love your hair.. My Mum has the same and she uses horse-shampoo. No kidding. It makes her curls super soft.. So maybe that is worth a try? At least in Spain you can find it in well organised supermarkets for human beings, haha.. The keratin straightening has been the most amazing thing I have done for hair.

    I looooooooooove it. In fact, my hair is growing and I want to do it again, but I have to wait a couple of months, according to my hairdresser. I have a lot of the same problems with my hair and I think you just kinda have to come to terms with it and let it go lazy person talking and try to be confident with it :. I think you just should let it be like it is some product is always welcome of course. However, if you do figure out a way of how to make blow drying work — share it with us! Can I blow dry?

    But I can use this and do so every day, it is amazing. You will not have curls-curls but you will have the waves. Dear Garance, gotta tell you, your hair is beautiful, it really is. I told him I had to be able to make a bun, it was my only isntruction. After that, I started to really enjoy my curls. And not all of them can. As for the hair products, I use leav-in to comb it, hair pomade and oil for the hair tips. You just gotta be carefull not to have the wet look on your hair.

    Great questions. I have no answers, although I think you look gorgeous with your hair tied up! I suspect our hair has similar texture. I have the same hair, same issues, and no access to upscale salons, etc. What works for me: a good anti-frizz serum on the hair when still very wet, brush through, let almost dry but while still damp, section the hair and twist the sections tightly by holding the lower part of the section and twirling with my finger like how some girls would twirl their hair as a nervous habit, you know?

    Let it dry in the twirled sections, then loosen it gently with your fingers. So, you now have your curls but they are smoother and more controlled. Another good alternative is to learn some different braids and updos. And my hair would be just like that — that is if I grew it out a bit more. Like Line et Mariana, I am queen of the blowout, i. Those made of boar bristles are better for your hair, those made of ceramic and metal, with little holes that go through the rod, are faster for your blowdry.

    I separate out a few bottom strands, near the nape of the neck, and tie the rest up in a bun with a hairclip. Brush in one hand, blowdrier in the other. Then I tie an elastic loosely around the straightened hair, in a ponytail. Then I put down the blowdrier, let down the next section of hair, put the rest back up with the clip. Pick up the drier again, blowdry the strands, and put them into the ponytail.

    And so on and so forth, going from the bottom to the middle of your head, to finally the strands that frame the face. A small-barrel brush allows you to curl the ends a little bit, while a larger brush will leave your hair mostly straight at the ends. Using the iron sparingly is better for your hair. I do it every 3 days. Lastly, I have to say practice makes perfect! Nobody is born knowing how to do this, it took me forever at first, but gradually became easier and faster!

    Garance my hair is exactlly the same as yours and i totally understand you. I cannot blow dry my hair also by my self. I use the normal ones not the hitted ones. PS: the magic lasts only one day.. I think blow drying inevitably makes most curly heads worse. Granted, I have five thumbs with these things, but I think your hair texture is like mine — thick, curliest than wavy but not those perfect corkscrew curls. She is Gorgeous! Find a fellow curled stylist who has a few tips. Mix and match.

    And — what can I say — sometimes life is so hectic a woman needs her bun! Et oui, join the club!! I have no ideas for your hair. I think they look just perfect! So I was thrilled when you started to post your videos…and positively surprised to find out that you sounded just like the English version of your blog!

    Kudos to Tim Sullivan! Thank you for sharing you exciting life with us. I really like your hair down and wanted to see more of it! They are the best and will help you. I can blow dry my hair in 20 minutes if I must, but prefer not to. A good hair salon will teach you how.

    Sorry for name dropping, it was all such a sweet and different time. I have used it for years and you get fabulous results. And with your shorter hair, it should take all of 15 mins. Alors moi je dis non au brushing!!! En clair je ne suis pas coiffeuse. Such a beautiful drawing! As for hair preferences, I like when you have yours up and love when it is loose too..

    Cela vieillit mais pas les cheveux dans la figure! The Deva Curl people are the experts on curly hair, and their products are fantastic. The stylists who train there are great, but since you are in NYC you can actually go to the original source, the Mecca for curly girls! They can definitely help you achieve a better relationship with your curls. I can relate to frustrations with blow drying the sore arms, the sweatiness right after I took a shower, finding a frizzy spot I missed in the back, starting my day cranky because of the aforementioned things.

    On est vraiment jamais contente. Alors je les attache en chignon aussi quand ils sont longs. Go to Drybar! Go to Blow! They offer monthly subscriptions! Material Fixations. I use a diffuser when I leave my hair curly. I use a little mouse to help my curls hold their structure and then I turn the diffuser on low and slowly bunch up my curls from ends to roots in the diffuser.

    No turning, rotating, swirling the diffuser around, it only makes my curls more insane. Otherwise, I brush, blow dry normal and use a straightener and call it a day. But, good news, diffusers are your new best friend along with a variety of products. Kevin Murphy, a product line from Australia, makes wonderful stuff that also smells divine. They use all natural scents. Best of luck!!! Il fait —t-il prendre la main! Ca marche. To tame it I section it and twist it by hand and then let it air dry, then the curls become ok. In one or two clips in the videos you had some beautiful boucles going on!

    Forget about le brushing ou meme le bun. Your curls are fresh, full of life, personality, and just plain beeeeautiful! What more can you ask for??! Et puis bon mais franchement un brushing???? Essaie et donne-moi des nouvelles! I have hair just like yours and I blow dry it every day.

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    Get yourself the largest round brush you can find.. Not straight but not frizzy.. Et ton sourire avec ton chignon ressort : Bref. Alas, I am exactly the same as how you describe yourself — massively incapable of using a hair dryer! I wish I knew how to do it too! Quelle illustration magnifique! You need a hair dryer with a round brush attachment, the air blows through the round brush so you do not need 4 hands. It is the only way I can straighten without the problems you have listed.

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    Weekly deep conditionings at salon are far better than keratin — smmooth as silk and straight as baguettes until it all breaks! Let your hair air dry for as long as you can like while you eat breakfast or check your email or something then use Kerastase Elixir Ultime and maybe some mousse for volume. Wrap the hair around the brush and pull hard with one hand while the other slowly moves the dryer down the strand.

    When you only have five minutes: Just blow dry the front and sides with the big round brush. Rough dry the rest then twist up in a chignon. Use a diffuse and some calming creme, twirl the hair around your face to help keep it in its place. I pay for your hair! Il va te faire aimer tes cheveux, tu verras!!! My hair is very similar to yours and I can never blow dry it well. The answer is to blow dry it badly is fine and then put it in big hot rollers. It somehow smooths out the frizz in the back and puts motion into the overly straight parts.

    In the end you just need to mess it up a bit to make it look like you never did a thing to it. Hanging loose and curly? I think one should accept what kind of hair you got and do the best of it. A good cut every 5th week, good schampoos a good dry schampoo, and a really good hairdryer, and some finishing stuff. A chin lenght curly bob? Or just let it have a life on its own. A lot of ppl would love to have your hair :D. I am so sad to read this. I am growing out my hair to let it curl naturally again. I think your hair looks great.

    I love Argan Oil or Moroccan oil and diffuse. Nice to see when people embrace who they are. I have no patience to blow dry my entire head and it never looks as good as a stylist. I cheat and do sections and try to blend the rest in. It sounds weird but it works. There should be someone in NY who can do it regularly when you want to be a straight haired gal. I have thin curly hair and it usually lasts 3 days.

    I have very similar hair, just much much longer. I have… pretty much given up. And I do not have enough arm strengh to blow dry my hair for an hour every other day or so. Which, unfortunately seems to be the only option, according to my mother, who has the same hair, but closer to your length. She has been blow-drying it almost every day since she can remember, and it seems to be the only way to keep it tamed. For now, my hair is also remaining firmly sequestered in a bun until an occasion really calls for a blowout.

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    For me you look always great, but then i am not a fan of very weel put together women…. Je suis comme toi! Ok sister, here we go — this really is the secret to consistently great hair — use it wisely! Round brush, with boar bristles The one by green one by Glamour is amazing for thick hair, the black one better if your hair is fine — likely available at professional supply shops. Mes cheveux font un peu moins frisettes car plus ils sont longs, plus les boucles tombent.

    Hey, I had really, really short cropped hair and it was just sooo easy to manage. I also used to have a fringe that is now too long to be called that and has to be clipped away. But in general my hair has responded really well to being blown dry. It also takes just about 5 to 10 minutes. Blow drying for her would have ended up in a frizz.

    Then dry dry dry the curlers and leave them for 20 minutes to ensure the hair has had time to cool. If I need a spruce up I use dry shampoo. As I pull the curlers out one at a time I dry them again to ensure no frizzies. And finally, what I do is blow my hair for a while until all the big drops of hair are gone, once they are gone I put some Moroccan Oil on it and then do all of this:.

    I love your hair curly and voluminous! Big hugs! I have curly hair. I keep it straight by wrapping it wet around my head keep it in place with hair clips til my hair dries. Stay strong! Also, Devachan salon in NYC cuts only curly hair. Nothing worse than having a triangle cut! Moi personnellement je les lisse avec des plaques. You are so wonderfully talented Garance! ALors pourquoi ne pas se couper les cheveux, non non non… ce ne sera jamais pareil….

    Pour le brushing, ben je passe mon tour. Mais si tu en as assez, ce que je peux comprendre. I have hair very similar to yours and like you, never managed to learn how to blow dry it. I can let my hair down the whole day without it frizzing or getting huge! Can you believe it?!! The products are made in New York, the name of the system is Diva Curl. They have, shampoo, conditioner, gel, etc. I was so happy with the results, I got them all! I too have hair that sometimes makes me want to cry, but it makes me me instead of some girl with boring straight hair, there are manymany of those!

    Smiling and laughing, Garance!! First of all, Garance I have to tell you your hair is not as bad as you think it is. I know I know, when women look at the mirror or any reflection of themselves, we always target the part that we are least confident with. BUT to be honest, your hair is just not that bad. To me, it is one type of hair, but definitely not the bad type. I am not saying this just because I love your blog and your lovely personality well, maybe they are part of the reason so much. Your smile and laugh really distract us from the problem you concern with.

    Ok, back to the topic. I have hair issue too. My hair is in the middle of growing out and the length reaches my shoulders now. The problem is there is no shape in my hair! Last year before traveling to London, I went for a haircut and it was completely a failure. So my bad haircut sticks to every photo of mine with the beautiful London scene as a contrast. I am going to Paris in April, what should I do with my hair :. Your wild hair is so cute! I might just be crazy, but I love big hair. En plus il faut un lisseur ou tu peux faire des mouvements avec tes cheveux pour leur donner un air pas trop baguette.

    Perhaps you should own the curls. See… I watch your videos and think how naturally chic your are in your perfectly imperfect bun. Making being utterly fabulous look so simple, yet so hard for we average ladies to achieve. As for blow drying, bleh. I do it.

    But I dread it. I just blow dry with a paddle brush and then use a chi straightener after to make waves in my hair, but it does take time…. I make little messy waves with it and move on… The secret is some kind of frizz-killing serum. Tou va changer quand vos cheuveux se debaressent du traitement Keratine je pense. Cute drawing! My hair is super curly, I just let it be or have the bun. If you have a solution, please share!

    I have curly hair too and have your same problems! Almost anytime I try to straighten my hair it is kind of a disaster. Even when I accomplish it I find it impossible for my hair to have the right texture. Instead I embrace my curls. Je suis dac avec Biba! MAIS …. Je ne le fais pas souvent, car je manque de tomber dans les pommes en attendant que mes cheveux soient lisses. Your hair is lovely. You have such a beautiful face and elegant jaw line that your hair swooped up in a bun looks perfect. I have been able to manage it with a powerful blow dryer no flat iron UNLESS there is a desperate need a la skanky tendrils in back of head and product with varying degrees of success, depending on the weather.

    I live in DC. I have oily hair that I really need to wash every day. The water in the city is HARD, loaded with minerals and deposits. The humidity here is awful. First, grow your hair out. As you know, the shorter it is, the curlier it gets. The weight of a longer length pulls down the curl and gives you more to work with.

    Second, when you get your hair cut, get long layers. Go to somebody who understands curly hair. I had to grow my hair out for 3 years after my stylist cut layers framing my face from the top of my head down. When it rained, my long layers would stay straight, and I would have a halo of unicorn curls atop my head. A good conditioner is key. I brush and part my hair and spray F. Fifth, the blow dry. I blow dry with my right hand and have my brush in my left. As a result, I have never been able to master a rolling brush. I hold the head instead of the handle of the brush in my hand to best control it.

    I first rough dry my hair, loosely pulling up layers to get under the different sections. I then sit down, flip my head over, and blow dry the rest with the paddle brush. I get in at the roots, keeping the dryer tight to the hair pulled taut, and then blast the cold air button halfway down the section toward the roots to avoid damage. After my hair is pretty much all dry, I flip it up and take a minute or two with the blow dryer on hot to tend to any kinks that may present themselves and then go through the rest of my hair with the dryer on cool to seal in some shine.

    Garance your bun is so unique! It is so garance dore that you should not worry so much about it! We love that bun! You have such a beautiful face and smile that your bun helps people see it… Anyways I remember a post you did some time ago and everybody would comment about how beautiful your hair looked! You should try more often that hairstyle! For me personally flat irons work but my hair are not as curly as yours! Au revoir!


    I would give my left arm for such funky hair!! Honestly thought you looked better with your hair down. I also have brown, curly, out-of-control hair, but when you have ringlets like that, they look the most gorgeous when you let them do what they want. Away with the bun, just let it bounce!

    Dear Garance. I have very thick, curly and dry hair. Sois brave! I stopped trying a long time ago to make my hair do anything other than stay natural. Straightening, blow drying, curling—they all just took too much time and damaged my curls far too much. Now, all I do is spray my frizzy curls with water so that they get even messy and just rock that beachy-fun look. I have the same problem with my frizzy hair and have never been able to tame it so I just make my best effort and go.

    I never learned how to blow dry so could probably use some lessons or a couple of extra hands. Your hair is beautiful in a bun or left down. It is part of your personality, alive and warm. I love all your videos. You are like the best friend everyone would like to have and hang out with. I say forget the blow drying and frustration that will come with it.

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    Illustration… superbe! Use it after showering your hair and let it dry in the air… good luck and show your hair, let the bun rest a while :. Garance, have you considered different style options? Could be quicker than blowing out your hair and also keep your hair out of your way while working! I think bobby pins could be your new best friends!! I like to use them to get different sculptural effects, twisting and pinning to create texture.

    I love it because I can do it while my hair is wet and it takes me about 5 minutes — and people always compliment it! Having said that,I have a bit of wisdom. Your hair wants to do what it wants. Its madness,but true of the entire female population. Allow it to be. Harsh chemicals,blow drying,flat ironing,etc. Ive always found true beauty in imperfection. So your hair is unruly and crazy,always wanting to do its own thing? Embrace it,and let it be free. All the products from Kerastase and do the Keratin treatment.

    Dry your hair with out blow it or so little beat and then use the flat iron with Kerastase straightener silicon oil. The hair have to look very,very health before straight it. Garance, I love your new cut — seeing it down in your videos gives me serious hair envy! I also have dark and curly hair, but my curls lack the elegance of yours. So with you about the hair. I do the bun just about everyday except I wear it low thinking to myself then it qualifies as elegant chignon?

    So there you have it, a bun. Quelques retouches et hop! You looked so good in all the videos! Garance, you are so beautiful…you look great no matter what. Curly hair, slightly frizz-prone and shoulder length. I went to my favorite stylist that knows how to blow out curly hair not all of them do! It takes time and effort but eventually you get better. I like Kerastase products in combination with some Moroccan oil or argan oil treatment for shine.

    All the best! I have allways envied girls with curly hair!!! I can curl them as much as I want to, in any way there is possible but nothing will happen. For example, if I have curly hair in the morning, they somehow straighten themselves, and around lunch they are already straight. So have fun with your curly hair. PS: Recently I found out that I like to wear my ponytail or bun as high as you wear your bun :. Pourquoi pas essayer une coupe super courte?

    Et chance, y en a plusieurs avec des wonderwoman aux cheveux curly!! Comme un lion en cage pour donner une image lisse. Entre Mowgli et Melle Chatterton. For oil — Instead of your dry shampoo, throw in baby powder talc , and run that through with your fingers. I do it all the time in the winter. Wash your hair at night. Flip your head upside down, so that your hair is dangling toward the floor. Blow it dry from underneath. Do the math and it comes out to 2. This is quite depressing to me — think of all the things you could do with that time — shop, have a get-away weekend, even get your taxes done boring but essential, and I never feel like I have the time for my taxes — now I know why — I spent that two days blowdrying my hair , etc.

    Anyway, I have no choice — this is years ago and I am still blowdrying my hair every day. But what are you going to do? Dear Garance, I have curly hair too not as curly as yours, but curly. My advice is to get a good hair cut, THE hair cut. I was only lacking the glasses and the guitar to look excactly like John Lennon in Imagine. Garance… I avidly read you and only felt the compulsion to comment now.. It does the wierdest things when I travel. Unlike your hair mine is very fine and very curly naturally..

    Its literally the best. The serum is good too. From time to time John Freida Frizz ease champoo is good too. But if I have clean hair it makes my day better. I buy my hairdryers at the salon supply stores.. When I travel I always bring my own champoo and hair dryer. Lastly I just wanted to say how much I admire you. You truly are a beautiful person… I really like the way that you portray the fashion world … sometimes it can seem so inaccessible and snooty to those of us on the outside. You make it feel.. You are very real and fun. I love the way you smile all the time… and you also have your own style.

    You never try to be a victim of your environment : As women we all have hangups about our bodies and our style… so I can really relate to you feeling so critical about yourself on screen. I think you really shine in your videos… and as you say about Stella McCartny.. Your videos were fun, but the witty posts you write and illustrate keep me coming back. Superbe illus today! You probably know this already but the high bun plus Keratine, plus regular blow drying, plus short hair cut, plus amino acid treatment — trust me I tried them ALL actually causes more damage to curly hair!

    What a shock.. I learnt it the hard way. Whenever I put my hair down now it looks like a cat just ran through it, followed by me getting electrocuted, then went to the same hairdresser as Marge Simpson. On a positive note, coconut oil or moroccan oil does wonders in softening the hair and roots. Try it twice a week for a couple of hours then wash out twice with shampoo and deep conditioner. Good luck. Secret treatments only to those who have suffered our pain!

    Cou cou! Je trouve que de cette facon, les cheveux gardent une texture naturelle. It takes much less time and was easy to learn how to do! You might want to try it! I wish we were friends because if we knew each other for real, what I am about to say might not seem so harsh. Just consider your recent interviews with two women with outstanding long, thick, curly hair — Corinne Bailey Rae and Franca Sozzani. Can you see your self with long, thick, curly hair?

    Have you consider the suggestion that CBR offered you in the video when you asked her about her hair? You might try this. It works for me, however, I know, I know, I know, it takes time, my arms sometimes get tired. I have to plan when I do it — and that means spending less time doing other things I like to do, like commenting on your lovely website. And yes. I was taken aback that your beautiful luscious hair was pulled so tightly into a rather ordinary looking bun on that adorable video, yesterday. Why not try a loose, sexy braid at the crown of your head, or something equally regal?

    However, your smile, your killer outfit, and your fabulous personality made up for the rather conservative, tight bun. Garance, you do loose really, really well. Should you not let your hair be as free as your personality? Alas, this incongruity disturbs me. Yet, I refuse to give in to the harsh styles that will, in the end, destroy the fine hairs at my temples which can happen slowly over time from pulling the hair into a bun.

    Also, harsh blow drying while the hair is soaking wet can cause hair to thin out over time, and Garance, that is not what we want. I have friends who are two decades older than me who have thick, gorgeous, long locs that they never, ever, ever, blow dry. They simply towel and air dry their hair and braid it into plaits, or into a single braid. Of course, these women about whom I speak, live in a community that encourages women to be natural. Their lifestyle is quite different from our urban lifestyle. Mais pourquoi ne pas se faire un brushing chez un coiffeur, touteS les semaines.

    Bumble and Bumble is your hair best friend! Plus les cheveux sont long et lourd, moins ils frisent. I hace cowlicks all over, which make nice waves in some places … but make me look like I have antennae in the front … which was REALLY lovely when I decided to get bangs! Originally, my hair is very curly and most of the time can get very frizzy, which can really drive you crazy.

    Couple of years ago I kept straightening my hair just blowdrying and at the same time styling with the round brush. However, it is soft, the curls are really nice and easily manageable. Also, if I try to plat it for the night, the curls next morning are as nice as on the day when I washed my hair. Hope this gives some ideas.. I am a huge fan of yours, I adore you, and love the new videos because I used to go to fashion week in paris with my mother who owns a store in Washington DC and carries Anne and Rick and I LOVE going with her to Paris, but now I am in medical school and had to let go of that luxury.

    Although, let me tell you, you such an incredible, beautiful human being, that you carry your hair all the same. It keeps hair soft and supple, with just enough texture to keep it all stuck together. Also, making sure I get in all the layers, so I divide my hair three times to apply generous amounts but also rub it in a lot and make sure to get the ends which tend to be the most dry. They must use a round brush, and must make it perfect the first time around because that is how it will stay.

    I also make sure the shampoo has been done VERY well so that my hair can literally last beautifully for a week! I wish I could help you and hope that my advice has been helpful. I love your blog and think you are perfect in every smile, wrinkle, and outfit!!!! Garance, I have to tell you that you inspired me to stop straightening my own hair. In any case, thank you for inspiring me to put down the dryer and straight iron. My hair and free time is so appreciative! Ne change RIEN!!! Tu devrais cultiver cela.

    Garance dear,i ve been following you for a long time and looooved your videos. About your hair: i dont like it short,they are curly and they frame a girlie smile which i loooove about you and so you look tooo girlie. I prefer to see you more feminime which is with long hair,twice as long as they are now,they will have weight and body and quess what- you are lucky because you can do whatever you want with curly hair- i have exactly the same. You can have professional blow drys and with your lifestyle i think the best thing is to use rollers-big ones-in semi dry hair after you ve applied kerastase elixir ultimate or kiels silk groom let them dry and then when you take the rollers of spray a hairspray to avoid frizzines for the next days -especially in New York.

    My best is pantene shine. Well to get to the point I feel the same about hair…for too long I rejected blowing it out or applying any products to it, i just figured it takes too much time, and no hair trick you pull a braid, pony tale, whathave you will endure a whole day of running from place to place, at work and all without having to retouch it endlessly.

    But the point is not how much time it gets out of your life to be happy with your hairstyle, the point its that I started to be bored with my hair. People above have spoken about hair matching up your personality: thats exactly my point. Thats atleast what i needed. So some ideas for you, that helped me are: they all have to do with change! You need a change, get a haircut: Go to a great salon and ask around, or you might have an idea of a haircut that suits for face, and that can be low maintenance. I never thought it important, but when I went for a lighter brown colour my natural is dark brown I felt younger and it lit up my face like magic, no kidding.

    I think a colour change would be nice for you!! I think that the curly iron is a great option too to give some shape to it. There are tons of youtube videos with cool hairstyle ideas. I hope to see your thoughts later on the blog. You need to love your hair again, I think that its like your smile, its such a bog part of who we are. Im freaking lazy to do anything with my hair, its just plain straight itself like freakin straight , so no matter how i curl and spray it, its straight again in less than an hour. So i learnt to live with it, i just dry it, as fast as i can before my arm gets tired its really long and thats it!

    I think your hair is nice Garance, just stop worrying about it! Embrace the curl like Corrinne does. I always look forward to checking out your new ones. I think that your hairs are perfect and I love they!!! Do the Keritin treatment again. It will make your life so much easier, not to mention your hair fabulous!!! And its true, i also love my hair the most when it just dries itself! Of course that needs good weather, and i also like her -braid and let it dry idea, and I agree, grow your hair!!!

    I have long, thick, wavy hair, and I have to say I can make my hair look pretty amazing when I blow-dry it! This video really helped! And also if you blow dry your supposingly long hair do it professionaly-they always look better and the whole look is soooo classy -matches better with your outfits. The girlie look does not-i am sorry. When you wear a bun it is like you state:i have no hair-forget my hair. Your hair is one of your best assets.

    Please grow them long and let us see a more feminime you. Trust me when you grow up you will have to have your hair short because long hair usually does not look good around an old face. Anyway thank you for your great videos-i was coming home to them-thank you!! Je me sens moins seule lol. Ne pas se laver les cheveux tous les jours. Que demander de plus?! Tiens nous au courant! Then blow dry it in sections saving the part that frames your face for last with the biggest natural bristle round brush you can get pulling the hair under towards you.

    Garance, thank you very much for your blog, it is amazing! Speaking about hair, I guess no girl is happy with her hair, but I can tell you, your curly hair is beautiful and suit your image perfectly. Hi Granace, I must say, I feel your pain!! Recently though, I found the perfect solution. In smallish sections, I make sure to get the roots as flat as possible always a tell-tale sign of curly hair hiding behind a flat iron then about halfway down I start to curl it there are some great youtube vids on how to do this nicely.

    I work pretty quickly around my head and before I know it I have relaxed, sexy, beachy curls! I admit after writing this it sound like a lot of steps but after YEARS of fighting with my hair this is surprisingly low maintenance for curly hair anyway. Good luck!! Hi Garance, I recommend the Japanese straightening. And there are rumours that the amount of formaldehyde is high and can cause cancer.

    Be careful with the Japanese straightening as it can break or dry the hair if the treatment is left on the hair for too long. I like to use a paddle brush and to pull my hair back against the contours of my head while drying it. Using your head really helps — it keeps the hair from flying about and gives it a nice smooth, volumes shape.

    Absolutely obsessed with this post! Love your blog, now following religiously. Keep up the amazing posts. Tes cheveux sont superbe. I am 45 and only just learning to cope with my hair — which is super thick with a kink — not a curl — a kink — it has to be long — it needs the weight — no hairdresser will ever tell you this — because long equals a lot of work for me and less often, but your hair will have a length it is best at and if you want to weigh it down a bit then weight is a good thing — i cant blow dry — tooo much effort and i get tangled up — in summer — i comb through once and sun dry — this works — winter not so much — dry and stick in some big rollers — it wont hold but it will tame cos rough drying makes it go huge — the way you comb when wet is important too — if you want some head height comb back from the 1st inch on the crown — then part that 1st inch — good luck xx and remember you are a package a pretty damn fab one too x.

    Si tu peux pas changer le sens du vent, change le sens de ta voile. I had the same problem as you! A few years ago, I let it grow longer, and I found the weight helped the curls dry into waves which are much nicer — no blow drying required. I started using Moroccan Oil and I can actually wear my hair natural! In fact I made an appointment for some colour yesterday and the receptionist at the salon told me she loved my hair ….

    I was shocked. Are you kidding?! Your hair is perfect the way it is both lengths. Straight hair has been dominant for too many years and soon things will cycle as they always do…. Pour le brush, mais bon sang! A part le volume du chignon ;- , ne changez rien…. I have never commented here before, but I have to tell you I adore your curly hair!

    It looks amazing just as it is. As a hair stylist who works with alot of curly hair, leaving a bit of conditioner in your hair after you shampoo goes a long way for taming frizz. And as another commenter mentioned, Devacurl is fantastic! I have to admit that i prefer you without the bun, sometimes it is a bit scruffy,and your curly hair are very beautiful!

    I did keratine straighten too, to have more disciplinated and less messy hair. I heard that you can do the same treatement not with flat iron, but with thongs, so that you have softer curls…. Il fait des miracles…. I love how easily we can all relate to this post! But then I found out that I could no longer braid my hair without it all falling out and the back would look like crap after I woke up.

    Garance, you just have to make peace with your curly hair. It might help you. Also, the woman who wrote it lives in New York…. I had wavy, unruly hair for most of my life, but after having children it went completely bonkers!